let me add ./takegwprogfilenerftossintrash okay thanks.

600 smite is not invulnerable.. and this sucks ass if its true that they plan to screw with more skills. lame just lame. i could of swore they said they were done nerfing skills in PvE and would only alter monster skills and content to fix farming bot issues, so tired of the nerf skill poop.

Like Steve Said they never tested shadowform as a whole to begin with and it never should've been conceived.

As for 600/Smite its not 100% invincibility like what shadowform offers (there are extra protection but it doesnt rest upon 1 player only)

Wow it's retarded how 600/Smite is getting nerfed...

Aslong they leave spirit bond how it is in PvP, idc :p but if they wanna nerf 600/smite they shudn't nerf spirit bond! en PS ( One of the best damage reduction skills in game ) but the damage source behind it... The smiting skills.

Regina gave an update on Monday in the Guru "Next Skill Balance" thread:

Post #845

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So I know some of you are waiting anxiously for the next skill balance. Let me just take a few moments to talk about the challenges we're facing with this particular skill balance. We are involving the Test Krewe in this balance. They've really been digging deep into skill discussions, and the involvement of the Test Krewe has added more cycles to the skill balance process. This is to be expected. When you invite a large group of people into the process and solicit and discuss their feedback, it will take more time. Secondly, skill balance (like many aspects of game design) is an iterative process, and one where both the Test Krewe and the Live Team are learning, streamlining, and improving on, in terms of how best to deliver and take in feedback. The winter holiday break hit, and there was some downtime for that. Finally, you all know that we do not change skills before the MAT. The Live Team and Test Krewe are working earnestly on this skill balance, and the Team knows that you've been waiting for it. __________________ Regina Buenaobra Community Manager ArenaNet, Inc.

Sounds to me like a whole lot of ANet still not doing their jobs!

I love that because there's a new team involved, "both the Test Krewe and the Live Team are learning, streamlining, and improving on, in terms of how best to deliver and take in feedback. How about simply doing it the same exact way the old Alpha Testers did it? How about organizing this shit in the multiple months BEFORE you even chose the fucking Test Krewe? How about doing something tangible? How about giving this motherfucking game the shakeup it needs before we all get bored and quit playing the damn thing? (I am almost at this point already! Right now I'm probably playing this game the least I have in about two years!)

Post #845

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The Live Team and Test Krewe are working earnestly on this skill balance, and the Team knows that you've been waiting for it. __________________ Regina Buenaobra Community Manager ArenaNet, Inc.

I really dont want a damn SF and 600 NERF. I know something new solo build will come out over time. I am tired of the farming NERFs. Kepkhet Marrowfeast, is a good one. What was so wrong about farming Griffins. If you dont like BOTs deal with that.

I have to agree with Steve this game needs something but not more farming NERFs. Give us another Sorrow's Furnace type area. Hell they have more then enough map space. I just really dont want to spend hrs clearing UW just because they think it is over farmed.


- I would not mind doing a balanced group to clear UW - just not all the time.

Imo if you bitch and moan about shadow form then complain about 600/smite being nerf, your a hypocrite lol. I mean really both are farming skills.....both provide ability not to die in most circumstances that you would any other fashion.

And nerfs are nerfs the next new meta will be out and that will be nerfed to, we are guild wars players we should be use to ANET's god forsaken nerfs by now.

Since this is probably the most important skill balance in GW history (both the farming meta and the competitive PvP meta are in line for drastic shakeups), I can believe that ANet wants to take the time to get it right. However, the calendar is moving onwards and we're at 4-5 months now since the last skill balance. I honestly believe not even ANet themselves know what to do in order to shake this game up from the state that it's in. Not only do skills need balancing, but areas and quests themselves need rebalancing to fall in line with the new skillsets that will be produced from this. If there was even the tiniest of guidelines that ANet wanted to follow to get something done, this balance process would be going a lot smoother and faster. ANet is more than likely throwing out all kinds of shit to the Test Krewe wall and seeing what sticks. It wouldn't surprise me to see the final skill balance to have all kinds of weird skill configurations and what-not.

I now expect this skill update no earlier than the Canthan New Year build at the end of the month, and most likely later than that. Keep in mind that ANet also has to deal with the wave of PvP botting that's now becoming rampant, as well as the account security issues. After ALL this time, the page of update notes for this skill balance better be so long it hangs my Firefox just to get the damn thing to load. They are certainly letting the hype build up for this, and there is no doubt in my mind it won't live up to half of it. Most people are dreading the SF and 600 nerfs because this game has lived on those builds for far too long now. It pains me to see a community of players that can't make builds for themselves and for the most part don't know their way around any area or mission unless a step-by-step guide of where to stand and what to use when has been posted somewhere for them to read. We live in a day and age where if the build isn't on PvX it isn't being used. And that fucking sucks.

I wish we could work on making new builds, the shitty thing is we have no idea what skills are gonna be touched. It fucking sucks.

Basicly, I think that Test Krewe is a hoax xD Srsly its been what 2-3 months b4 skill update ?

FAGGOTS.

Where izz thou GW2 <- VaporWare

<- Pessimistic QQ whore

yea it only says possible changes to 600 smite. personally i dont think they will nerf 600/smite

Which more than likely means they're gonna mess with it. Why would they mention it if they weren't gonna fuck with it? Lol

/passedusedtonerfs

now its just super annoying, why waste the time and labor on skill nerfs just to do it again and again. when it could be put towards added content and hold the community a bit longer since they refuse to put out gw2. blah blah was going on a QQ but yea. Anet knows my thoughts so not worth repeating again and again and again. I guess I can be happy they did a couple of things, but really think the queen needs to get off her bootay and rotate... just saying.

Good god. ANet is getting DESTROYED in that Guru thread today. (And for good reason! People are calling them out on their bullshit!)

Someone from the Test Krewe chimes in (vaguely) about the current progress of the Skill Update on Regina's Wiki Talk Page:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback_talk:Regina_Buenaobra#Skill_Balance_Not_Until_February

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Allow me to crush all hope for you: the long wait is due to the atrocious forum software and complete lack of organization. Nothing useful is being done. –- Jette 07:31, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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@Jette, I've heard similar complaints. A lot of my friends that are on the TK have told me it's an unorganized mess with a terrible forum and no real work is being done. I guess we shouldn't be surprised with that, considering that the TK seemed to be unprepared (with the sign-up site going down, lack of available information about the TK at the time, etc.) and pulled out of someone's butt. -- Karate Jesus 13 January 2010 (UTC)

ANet is completely incompetent in all facets of their job. Only their artists have a goddamn clue on how to do anything worth a shit. I don't doubt that the Live Team and Test Krewe are still floundering around on veritable square 1. I don't. ANet takes 10 steps to walk 1. EVERYTHING they do takes way longer than it should. Nobody that works there knows how to plan ahead. This goes way back to fucking Prophecies. I've been saying it for years. My earliest posts on Guru and GWO are ones trashing them, and I'm sure my last ones will be ones trashing them too.

I really think the entire Guild Wars 1 Live Team should be fired and more competent people brought in to replace them. They are going to put the final nail in the coffin for this game if something isn't done to increase productivity, and soon.

Well... if u all remember, by the time EOTN was comming out and the news that ANET had decided that there will not be more GW campaingns as stated when Prophecies was first released, but that they will start working on GW2 instead, there was a sort of explanation to this decision. The truth is they realized GW has serious flaws that could not be fixed whitout having to totally change the whole game. So they just made the very tough but (i think) right decision to start working on GW2 and focus all their efforts on that.

In my opinion, GW can only be patched to a certain point, trying to keep game alive until GW2 is out as Scott said. I do agree that maybe Live Team is not doing best work ever, but u have to admit it is quite a hard task the one that they are carrying out... and i guess with not much budget since, as said before, ANET is focusing on GW2.

You should get yourself a little team together and design a game, Steve. I'd play it!

i think I read somewhere in an interview or something that finances were not an issue. -shrug- so admittance to ------------------- not so nice words here -----------------------? qq

-starving for more gw1 content while I wait- QQ

Just saw this on Guru. Another Regina update, this time with specifics:

Guru thread: GvG Skill Balance, Next Skill Updates, Wintersday Re-Run

Regina's Wiki Journal Page

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GvG Skill Balance, Next Skill Updates, Wintersday Re-Run - 19 January 2010 Skill Update The next skill updates will be rolled out in stages. First, GvG skills will be updated, and this will come next week, before the Monthly Tournament. We will release preliminary patch notes with details of those GvG changes later this week, so that those participating in the Monthly Tournament will have some notice of the changes. Please note that these preliminary update notes are subject to change, and may not reflect the final changes that you will see next week. Our team is targeting February for the next set of skill updates. The changes previously mentioned are planned for inclusion. Wintersday Re-run We are planning on re-running Wintersday in the last week of January, starting on January 29th, with the finale on February 7th. There will be a festival hat NPC collecting Candy Cane Shards in exchange for this year's Wintersday hats, so if you miss the finale, you will still have a chance to collect the hat.

GGTTYLGLHFKTHXBYE SF in February. FINISH YOUR TITLES NOW!


Wait a minute... Re-running Wintersday the last week of January. When the hell is Canthan New Year? Must be the following weekend or else it will come later than any Canthan New Year we've had yet.

Re: The Wintersday Re-Run: A Few Extra Details From The Guru Discussion Thread

lilDeath wrote:

So this Wintersday re-run... is it the whole Wintersday with all the quests, NPC's, etc. or what? If not, why a whole week if just to get the hat, which was the biggest problem during the finale?

Regina wrote:

It is the whole event, including what you've listed above. There is a finale to get the hat, but in case you miss this second finale, there will be an NPC hanging around collecting Candy Cane Shards (exact amount to be finalized) to exchange for that hat. __________________ Regina Buenaobra Community Manager ArenaNet, Inc.