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Kodi Venomspike
Level 3 Member

Posts: 373 Registered: 2009-10-09
Age: 26 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland
 | Subject: Something bothering me 2010-03-06, 12:59 am | |
| For those of you who like to do dungeons/uw/fow/urgoz/doa..etc, i think we should start switching up classes, im tired of being limited to comming on 1 or 2 characters because the same people want to do the same jobs all the time. this has been going on for a while and i have kept my mouth shut but its time for this issue to come to the surface. It will help everyone out a lot more if people who are frontlines start switching out as well as backlines and etc.. |
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Industrial Sized
Level 2 Member

Posts: 102 Registered: 2010-01-29
Age: 22 Location: Illinois, USA
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-06, 2:14 pm | |
| I'm currently working on moving most of my chars through EotN and a few chars will be pushed through NF still, but I'd really like to start doing dungeons and such on something other than my warrior or monk. |
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Betrayer of Wind
Level 2 Member

Posts: 211 Registered: 2010-02-23
Age: 21 Location: Brazil
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-06, 3:16 pm | |
| I see your point,kodi.
I for instance usually go frontline,mainly because its easier for me to lead the group and put my weight on the team(do the pulls,tank/bodyblock etc),but also because most of my other decent chars(Ranger,War,Sin,Mes,Rit) are physicals. I do reroll to either Rit or midline ranger when other people dont have others characters to come on and someone has to switch positions;when its not necessary,i prefer staying on my position unless its a practice run(people learning how to do the frontlining and such).
It also works on a first come,first serve basis too,but when other people comming later cant run the necessary roles left,someone would have to reroll in order to fit everyone in(which is what i try to do most of the time,rearrange the group).
At least my groups are usually flexible on builds and characters,and if you wanna switch to another character, let me know before-hand so I can work it out.I try to form the group in the most efficient way,and it might not be the character u want to run.For example,you're one of the few rits that come on my runs(along with jason,usually).Since its your main and u do it perfectly,its very obvious to me to have u running your Rit than any others character u have. |
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Scott Ware
Level 6 Member

Posts: 1262 Registered: 2009-07-10
Location: Deep in the Heart of Tx!
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-06, 3:24 pm | |
| Totally agree. However, I hate playing frontline. I'm just not that good at it. I don't mind switching to other mid to backline stuff, though. |
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Grace
Level 6 Member

Posts: 1060 Registered: 2009-11-25
Location: a garden
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-08, 10:25 pm | |
| agreed, my ranger tis not the only reason i been working on char.s. been hoping to get several chars to all spots, bit slow with things going on in rl atm but yea ele, para, monk, blah blah, necro is already places -minus doa but besides location i have to get skills...
anywho short answer i agree. hence the push throughs... |
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Regolith
Level 2 Member

Posts: 139 Registered: 2010-02-11
Age: 24 Location: Ontario, Canada
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-08, 11:20 pm | |
| I got plenty of characters and normally switch it up. I Primarily play monk, so when i group with people I just grab one of my other characters. If you ever want to switch positions in a run with me, just tell me I should be able to. |
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Drakefire20
Level 1 Member

Posts: 23 Registered: 2010-02-20
Age: 21 Location: Rhode Island, USA
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-10, 6:25 pm | |
| i got a few characters i can switch in, but as far as UW is concerned, once i finish it i will be more flexable once its done on him, i got a monk and working on my ele atm, to be honest let me work on that tonight =P |
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Grace
Level 6 Member

Posts: 1060 Registered: 2009-11-25
Location: a garden
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-10, 8:42 pm | |
| ^^ yea... i still have those waiting quests thingies on my ranger n stuff, but for UW I can totally attempt rit, necro, monk and of course my ranger for sure. |
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Fulla Kick
Level 1 Member

Posts: 44 Registered: 2010-03-10
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-10, 11:33 pm | |
| im kinda new to the guild so im not too sure whether runs are pre-planned in advance or impromptu?
if theyre impromptu , maybe we can setup an event on da forums prior to the run so ppl can list what they want/can bring |
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Dev
Level 3 Member

Posts: 357 Registered: 2009-03-21
Age: 19 Location: Gmike's butt :)
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-11, 1:01 am | |
| | Betrayer of Wind wrote: | | I for instance usually go frontline,mainly because its easier for me to lead the group |
You do realize you don't have to lead ALL the time don't you? Give someone else a chance. I'm sure other people would love to play a frontline role and it doesn't require you to play frontline in order to lead.
Now, I agree with Kodi fully in that people should be switching classes. I'm guilty of not switching classes, mainly because I enjoy playing a certain class but that's not to say I wouldn't switch if I had to. Having said that, I think a problem we have is that some people do not have characters to some of the places we run. I wouldn't mind putting together groups to push through certain campaigns, quest chains, missions, etc. rapidly in order to get skills or areas that would be needed if that were the problem. As for right now, I think we need to give this post nerf a little more time and builds will start getting made again. |
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Betrayer of Wind
Level 2 Member

Posts: 211 Registered: 2010-02-23
Age: 21 Location: Brazil
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-11, 2:41 am | |
| | Dev wrote: | | Betrayer of Wind wrote: | | I for instance usually go frontline,mainly because its easier for me to lead the group |
You do realize you don't have to lead ALL the time don't you? Give someone else a chance. I'm sure other people would love to play a frontline role and it doesn't require you to play frontline in order to lead. |
Its far easier to lead a group if you're frontlining.The pace of the group is mostly dictated by how fast paced the main tank/frontliner is(most noticeably on Urgoz and DoA),and thats why i normally prefer going on that position. And dont get me wrong,I like teaching how to do the runs;if theres enough interested in doing a practice run instead of a fast run so people can learn more indepth how things works,I'd gladly do it.
As for me leading all the time,thats because its me that usually organize the balanced groups.If i'm joinning one(I actually only seen one being organized for Urgoz,which i decided to sit out),I have no problems having other people lead the group,but i'll give my input to it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also,I've seen people talking about balanced groups like they arent really organized and its more like BYOB,and that I should let people run whatever they want. I seriously disagree with that,on a balanced group if a team member doesnt contribute to the whole group,hes holding the group back.There are roles that need to be filled depending on the group setup,and if you dont fill out those roles,the team will not function very well,either it'll be a slower run or a possibly fail,not because of a standard problem,but because the team just wasnt working well at all. Of course we can tweak the original roles to fit the builds that people want to run better,but its definitely not BYOB. |
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Dev
Level 3 Member

Posts: 357 Registered: 2009-03-21
Age: 19 Location: Gmike's butt :)
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-11, 3:01 am | |
| I'm just saying, even if you are organizing the group you don't have to run front line. You can just as easily "lead" as a caster. Of course the front line dictates how fast paced the run is, but it doesn't require them to lead. |
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Grace
Level 6 Member

Posts: 1060 Registered: 2009-11-25
Location: a garden
 | Subject: Re: Something bothering me 2010-03-12, 4:30 pm | |
| are we talking about the top slot of party list or organizing a run? in my opinion organizing a run can be anyone who wants to do a run, you ask and you might receive depending on whos on and how many want to do it. but that doesnt make you the leader of group - for instance uw and a person wanting to play spiritspam for rit or ranger starts run. of course it would be good to establish what else may or may not be needed in group - prof and semibuild wise... top of party list well thats who ever does the calling/targeting or easier spot for tanks to be casted on. -shrug- whateverz clever tho. that just
apparently the rest of what i typed got clipped and well i dont remember what i said -shrug- |
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