Yeah, I lol at people who think Catholics aren't Christian. I'm like... they're as Christian as you get, gtfo of here. Just because Luther was pissed off because people couldn't read the Bible for themselves (because many couldn't read in general) so they had to be preached to and he thought the Catholics were "doing it wrong" doesn't make them any less Christians than all the non-Catholic denominations. It's why GOING to chuch was such a big deal and why it is still a big deal. Before, people COULDN'T read for themselves and had to be preached the gospel. Now, people keep going to church because they mis-interpret something, which is (summed up) you should have a day where you discuss the Bible with others each week and reflect on the teachings. It says nothing about actually GOING to a church. People just interpret it as that because not many actually discuss it outside of church. It's just routine for some people.

Yea, I stopped going as soon as I was given a choice. My family isnt like hardcore christians but they believe. I also never truly believed even when I was christian. Just something about things being forced on me i dont like. So I ran from christianity... obviously, Wicca is about as far as you can get lol

Eh, one could say that, but if you really think about it, what are miracles? I won't get into it, but just something to really ponder, ya know?

I find it really interesting where this Introduction has taken us.

Actually, a woman's first birth can be interpreted as a virgin birth, seeing as it is the first time she is giving birth, and has actually been called that before.

And I wasn't really talking about that, I was talking about him healing the sick and shit like that.

And honestly, by your definition of miracles, I don't understand why you believe in magic. It's the same thing just a different word.

Healthy debate is good for the soul every once in a while. As long as everyone keeps it even keel, we'll be ok. Insults happen and I'll shut it down REAL quick

Nah, not trying to be mean. Just showing differences in interpretations of words. Trying to get the mind stimulated!

Btw, these differences in interpretations of words were from Wiccans to Christians. And I kinda think they're right... I mean. Miracles can be completely interpreted as types of magic. -shrug-

I know, that was just an example that came to mind. True enough to a certain degree except magic is just the guiding of energy.

Scott: me and insults dont go together anyways so no worries (the exception is for Briar). As for the faith thing, i have trouble in just blindly believing in something. Im a scientist at heart, I require proof.

Memmax: one of the many services i offer (besides sarcasm) is interesting convos =P

Laynie, mean? never and i barely know her.

I guess when you look at it that way it could be viewed as magic (not the fantasy, fireballs and shit kind)

True, which is where alot of ppl kinda get lost...

p.s. sorry for double post, psp has a max character limit -.-

Oh, I can be mean when I want to. But it's TOTALLY not necessary here.

And I don't see a double post, so it's cool? Lol

Haha! We'll see if I do or not.

im just saying, you will eventually =P