Saw the trailer and was just wondering

The Old Republic?
I dunno.. I was excited at first but the monthly fees kinda put a bummer on it for me. Not that they've stopped me before with other games but I dunno, the combat system looks a little weak and the animations don't really impress me. Not going to judge a book by its cover though, waiting for release to make a final decision on it.

Trailers look amazing, story line will probably be even better(is from the creators of Mass Effect), but the animations are worse than the ones used in Superman 64 and the gameplay looks terrible. So just like Mass Effect(gameplay ain't that bad but is boring as hell), it'll be worth it just for the story. Hopefully they'll fix the animations and make them look fluid and completely enhance/redesign the gameplay. In the end it will probably be better to wait for the hacked(free) servers to come out. And trust me, I'm a HUGE Star Wars fan so I wouldn't bash on the game unless it really, really, really looks awful(except the story). But then again, theres never been a Star Wars game that has really been great, just 1 or 2 "alright" games.

According to what I've read is based on the era when the Jedi's vs. Sith war was at it's peak. So I hopefully we'll finally take a look at the Sith Lord that Sidius mentions to Anakin(Vader) that found the powers to bring people to life in order for him to join the dark side(Ep. III). The Galactic Republic and Jedi's finally """destroy""" the Sith Empire and believe they're extinct, but after some years the Sith comeback to take over the galaxy(kinda like Ep. VI where the Sith Empire thought the Jedi's were extinct and blah, blah, blah). So the whole "star war" starts all over again, only that this time, instead of just a handful of Jedi's/Sith's able to kick some serious ass, theres gonna be thousands. How far behind of Ep. I, the story of the game is I really don't know. But if is not too far there is a slight chance we get to see a young Yoda and how he started his alliance with the Wookies, of perhaps even a young Qui-Gon and Dooku still a Jedi master.

Anyways, theres no doubt in my mind the storyline is going to be awesome, but the game itself looks a bit too mediocre for me to buy. If they don't fix it, they'll end up like Square Enix giving Final Fantasy XIV for free, and ultimately shutting down the servers. So if you're not a Star Wars fan, I wouldn't recommend you to buy the game, and if you are, then buy the game, try to beat the story as fast as possible so you don't need to spend more than $30 on monthly fees(that's 2 extre months), move on, and wait for GW2. Damn, it's been a while since I don't write this much!

Based on what I've heard about it, it is good for die-hard Star Wars fans but isn't really anything groundbreaking or original in the MMO genre. Being Star Wars, I'm sure the storyline will be pretty worthwhile, at least as much as MMO storylines can be. Still has the dated, WoW-style "collect 8 of these, then 5 of these, then 10 of these" quests, and the visuals leave something to be desired overall. The game won't flop by any means due to the brand and following, but there are already lots of existing MMOs out there who follow the same formula, just without that 'Star Wars' coat of paint. I'm sure the game will be deep enough to give players lots to do in it.

The general trend in massively multiplayer online games seems to be moving away from the monthly-fee model and towards the heavily DLC-based model. That SW:TOR isn't doing this (as far as I know, it is going to have a monthly fee) really tells you all you need to know about how forward-thinking this game is going to be.

With all that said, I'm not really one to hate on a game just because it isn't 'the future of videogames' or anything like that, so if it appeals to you, give it a shot. Guild Wars 2 is still probably about a year off or so. The one thing it has going for it is the Star Wars predecessor MMO had a big following and this one appears to be following suit, so there will be plenty of people to play it with.



I'm personally not interested in SW:TOR. I'm setting my sights on Diablo 3 and GW2 as my next big PC time sinks. I'm considering building my new PC in time for Diablo 3 - which should be out beforehand - rather than holding out for GW2. I'm pretty excited for Diablo 3. I just picked up both Titan Quest games (original + expansion) for only $5 total in a Steam sale the other day, so I'm going to make time to check it out soon. I hear Titan Quest is the best non-Diablo Diablo clone (even better than Torchlight, which is fun IMO). However, co-op in TQ is pretty much dead these days unless you know people to play it with so I'll have to single-player it.


EDIT: I'm also looking forward to Torchlight 2, but if the first one is anything to go by the sequel will run just fine on my current PC.

Just sayin Star Wars Galaxy was the like the best MMO ever made

Well hopefully we'll be wrong when the game comes out and it turns out to be great. But Galaxies was perhaps the best MMO 8 years ago when it released and a totally different company(SONY). 8 years ago gameplay didn't needed to be half as creative, fluid, innovative or diverse as it HAS to be now and story telling was the main focus and of course make the games challenging(something both companies and wannabe gamers have completely forgotten with time, hence why Demon/Dark Soul is by far the best game of it's genre right now). And apparently Bioware hasn't figured that out yet. Like I said, story wise, it'll probably be one of the best out there, but everything else is simply terrible, is a combination of bad and wrong, is...badong(saw Kung Pow for the 8567872348327th time yesterday).

BTW I forgot to say that even though I never played it much(I've never supported pay to play games and never will), Galaxies WAS in fact a hell of a game.

XD Was a 14 day trial so I never payed a dime. But thanks for mentioning it, SWTOR will be exactly like DCUO, extremely fun for the 1st week, but after that you'll find yourself doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. The fighting system in DCUO I still believe is the best in the action MMO genre, character customization is amazing with all the features it has. Besides that, the game sucks some hairy 50 years old sweaty balls. SWTOR looks like it will be the opposite, great story, but mediocre in every other aspect. And just like DCUO that everyone stopped playing and now they release it as a free to play, SWTOR will end up in the same level. At least both companies can say they made great 1 week games, unlike Square Enix, FFXIV wasn't even worth playing for 5 minutes.

I've always had fun with the star wars games that I have played and I'm not that big into star wars or anything. Knights of the Old Republic was a really fun solo rpg as well as Jedi Knight Academy. Battlefront was a fun FPS on console idk about on computer and obviously galaxies was fun until they decided to change like the entire profession system and take down the F2P servers.

So I've been watching 10+ hours of footage of this game from early-release players who pre-ordered, just because I was bored. It's released publicly in 3 days I believe so I figured I would form my own opinion.

I'm currently watching somebody play through the starter area as a female Mirialan Jedi Knight, and then participate in a four-man mission; one player from each starting Galactic Republic class. He dabbled a little into some other things. Also, currently watching a male Human Sith Inquisitor who also just reached level 10 and is about to leave the starter area.

Thoughts (all my opinion obviously):
I am also going to be comparing it to GW2.
• Combat is pretty MMO typical. Sometimes you may be knocked flying back, visibly stunned or be leaping ahead so the animations bring life and make it seem dynamic but geez it's boring at least at the beginning when you don't have a huge arsenal of skills to it but it seems like your typical no-auto-attack.
• Character customization. Better than GW1's. Not better than GW2's. Characters also look too basic for me. A little more realism would have gone a long way and one of the four male body types is this kind of almost fat body type, and seeing other players with it would annoy me -- it's silly. And this is coming from a somebody who likes beefy guys.
• Character design. Races are hard to tell apart. The model of the Zabrak is just a human with cartoony lines on the face and polygonic horns sticking out of the head. A Chiss is basically a blue-skinned, red-eyed human. The Mirialan looks just like a green human except with tattoos on the face. I suppose this makes sense so less voice acting is required (also weird to meet like strange bug-like races in the game with human voices) but comparing to the clear difference of GW2 races... the character design is sooo basic in comparison. Hair and facial hair looks so polygonal too.
• Game looks pretty good. I actually like the art style, but only a little. The environments look like pretty cartoons.
• Voice acting: It being fully-voiced (the voice acting is decent, I found the character voicing a bit stale like they had to have it applicable for a "good", "in-between" and "evil" character; jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none when it comes to the voices). Nolan North voices the male Jedi Consular, but it's not his best work. I feel like none of the voice actors really got into their characters which is not surprisingly considering how many voice actors they would've had to employ.
• Cutscenes with choice/story moments - This is the only thing that sets it apart from other MMOs. Well, aside from it being Star Wars... the cutscenes are good, and complimented with the okay voice acting, it's interesting to have the choice, via. a typical bioware wheel, to what your character to say and these may affect your light/dark points (no matter what "side" of the war you're on, you can be Chaotic Good or Lawful Evil for example). However, though this may affect future cutscenes I didn't see choices actually affect the quests. Multiplayer conversation cutscenes are basically just each party member chooses their option, it picks one of the choices at random and that character is shown saying it. On said bioware-wheel choices where the choice will affect light/dark you don't see or are affected by somebody else's choice which IMO kinda removes to point of multiplayer conversation other than to see somebody else talk. Comparing this to the GW2 thing where in a 5-person dungeon each party member will vote to one of 2-3 options in a choice - which is actually dynamic.
• UI is easy to understand.
• No "are you sure you want to purchase this?" function which pissed off the guy I watched.
• Loot sharing system is decent. Need (make a bid, you want the item to equip)/Greed (make a bid, you want the item to sell)/Pass system + dice roll to determine who gets the loot.
• Companions. Can be customized and you can have five (one at a time).

Haven't seen far enough footage of the apparent PvP system or the space combat (which is apparently "Star Fox on rails" type thing), or end-game footage. I may update again, but so far I'm thinking "people will play $15 a month for a basic game that is basically a movie with choices that barely matter?". To be blunt: it looks basic. It picked up as I watched a Jedi Shadow, a Jedi Sentinal, a Scoundrel and a Commando go through a mission, but they did it with no challenge, there were some bugs, plot was basic, run-in-and-kill-everything.

It annoys me that the typical TOR tard will say "GW2 looks like one of those F2P games"?? Like really bitch? First off) it's BUY-to-play. Huge difference. Like where do you find a game that's f2p with the production values of GW2 lolkbitch. Secondly) your loss. Remain uninformed and/or in denial. I'd rather play hundreds$$$ less for a game that isn't meh.

BASIC.

If you want some well-versed facts & opinions of the game, check out the NeoGAF official game thread for SW:TOR:
Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"


You'll have to go to the end of the thread to get the most up-to-date viewpoints. That thread covers the game's entire development until now. I'm sure it will keep active well past the official public release.

Thanks Steve. But yeh, I didn't get enough of a good impression from watching the early game to feel inclined to bother looking up and forming an opinion that's past just a first impression or learning more about the end-game even though I can imagine I'm likely misinterpreting a few things. I don't think I can be convinced that SW:TOR has any defining feature other than story cutscenes with a Bioware-esque choice wheel, but I guess I won't dig a grave for it at this point.

I'll probably continue to watch the Mirialan Jedi Sentinal footage though merely because I really like the reviewer but it was kinda boring so far.